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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob one question, can any player sign up or ONLY eve registered account holder players?
Only players with a password provited here can signup for the tournaments.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 26/05/2006 22:42:41
Originally by: Sarmaul okay... so, CCP censors us from seeing words such as **** and **** due to the Teen rating on the game, yet the feel it's perfectly reasonable to endorse a promotion that encourages minors to sign-up to an online gambling site? Jesus christ :/
Who is this "Al G.Rhytym"? Who is "Think Star"? Why has this been given a sticky without any official word from CCP?
And just so you know, the EVE forums are completely public so everyone viewing can see the password.
we are scratching our head wondering these same questions... we went to sign up and saw just what you stated...we were to say the least a little surpirsed...and stopped actually:(:(
CCP is not involved in this in any way, but have graciously allowed us to post information about this tournament here on the forums.
Furthermore, all under age players will not be able or allowed to create an account. This is stated in our rules and regulations section and in our policy statement.
We do not allow underage gambling in any meaning of the word. If there is a fraud ( underage winner ) the Prizes are payed out to the runner up.
Furthermore we did not add any cash prizes, and there is no entry fee, the tournaments are completely free to enter which makes this tournament series more appealing, this truly is intended as an event that should give our players change to win cool stuff (shipped to their door step) in a game of cards.
We appreciate your concerns.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/05/2006 23:17:21 I was wondering if you could prahaps tell me a little about the history and reputation of 4kings.com, as Google has a grand total of 22 hits for "4kings.com", most of which seem to refer to the online gaming clan. Further-more, it doesn't seem able to find a single website that links to 4kings.com. For an online gambling site to have no online presence, you'll understand my suspicions.
Finally, I did a domain lookup on 4kings.com and it seems that the website is hosted in Iceland. CCP is also an Icelandic company. Any chance you could tell us if there is a relationship between 4kings.com and CCP, and how this promotion came to be?
4Kings are a part of the B2B poker network. (24hpoker AB sweden) 24hpoker network 4Kings are hosted at B2B poker.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.27 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Traxman Edited by: Traxman on 27/05/2006 05:44:19 Damn nice, im registerd!!
If i win, do you send the gear to Thailand ? 
Added: Soo.. when do we see Eve Poker for isk ?
Yes, we wil lsend to Thailand. We will send the prizes anywhere in the world.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.27 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Edited by: HippoKing on 27/05/2006 11:05:57 Just for my own curiousity: why are we on a forum which we are repeatedly told is teen rated enough that no-one is allowed to use the word ***** in any context because some people might interpret is as a reference to drugs (i am allowed to say drugs, right?) but you are promoting gambling with a sticky?
edit: also, how come they get to inline images, and we have to link?
All under age players will not be able or allowed to create an account. This is stated in our rules and regulations section and in our policy statement.
We do not allow underage gambling in any sense of the word. If there is fraud (i.e. an underage winner) the Prizes will be paid out to the runner up.
Furthermore we did not add any cash prizes, because there is not an entry fee, the tournament is completely free to enter. As a result, this tournament series should be more appealing. We intend this to be an event that gives the EVE Community an opportunity to win cool stuff (shipped to their door step) in a game of cards.
We appreciate your concerns.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.27 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Absolutely Beautifull The deposit codes currently do not work 
We are experiencing technical difficulties linked to the codes. It will be fixed asap. Meanwhile you can send me an email with your username on 4kings.com and I will add you under appropriate Bonus.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.27 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 27/05/2006 15:41:25
Originally by: Liax Is it just me or are the dates/times different than advertised? More specifically Satellite 3 which is 12 hours behind....
The tournaments are at the same time as advertised. CET spells Central European time.
Our poker client can be adjusted to your current time zone (some computers do that automatically) so we included the tournament schedule in EVE time also.
Should you require any further assistance please don't hesitate to contact us at [email protected]
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.27 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 27/05/2006 19:04:17
Originally by: Bob Niac um wait.. can i get a laptop instead?
XPS laptop > desktop
I'm sorry, but the prizes are already set and can't be changed. Come to Iceland and I'll buy you a beer instead 
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 00:40:48 Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 00:39:43
Originally by: Xtreem ok iv signed up (T_Xtreem) clicking on the eve onlien banner and im ust getting an error.. is this becuase all the seats are taken or is there just an error on the page and i cant join up? i dont wanna miss my seat :)
You can go to - poker - promotions and click read more link number 2 with no subject.
We are sorry for any inconvinience this might have for you and I can assure you this will be taken care of asap.
On the other hand we still have plenty of seats available so do signup for an account -> download the poker client -> sign in the poker client -> click tournaments tab -> scroll down to EVE OPT (there are 3 of them and you may sign up for all of them) and use the eve password provited above to register.
Regards
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 01:38:42 Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 01:35:43
Originally by: starvoid Edited by: starvoid on 28/05/2006 01:22:01 i just created an account as instructed. i use a unique account pw presumably, with the 'eveplayer' being some specific torunament pw?
Anyway i look down list of tournaments and see nothing related to eve. I click on the big eve tounament picture and get:
Error.... An error occured.
<< Click here for startpage >>
This is a special tournament for EVE and will not appear on the tournament list on our website.. please follow the below instructions.
Download the poker client -> sign in the poker client -> click tournaments tab -> scroll down to EVE OPT (there are 3 of them and you may sign up for all of them) and use the password "eveplayer" to register.
We are experiencing a technical problem at the moment on our frontpage links and we are looking into it.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Traxman Tornaments start 29 May, 00:00, 04:00 and 08:00, i get the feeling im in the wrong corner of the world 
I would thank starvoid and 4kings.com for this opertunerty and i wish all players good luck today.
The first tournament starts in 20minutes
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 16:49:00 -
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Here are few tips for you to read and keep in mind while playing this poker tournament:
There are many ways to go about developing your playing style in tournament poker.
Some players play passive - aggressive: This means that they don't play many hands but the hands they decide to play they will play at full throttle.
We also have the maniac: He plays almost every hand and he plays them all full throttle, you never know what this player has in store but this player is someone you want to play against any day. Just wait for your best hand AK or AA and then go against him.
There is no one correct way to play poker although some methods are preferred and suggested. Texas Hold'em is a game that takes minutes to learn but lifetime to master.
Playing tight - aggressive is suggested by all good tournament players, we also suggest it. į The normal raise is 3 times the big blind and follow up is 70% of the pot. Never get carried away, and if you think you are beat just fold and move on to the next hand.
The EVE tournaments have 15 minute blinds which means you have plenty of time to get a decent hand.
Beginners are advised while getting the feel for the game to play mostly pairs and AK AQ AJ and then test the waters when you feel confident enough to challenge the table.
THE FIRST TOURNAMENT START IN 15 MINUTES (next one in 4 hours and 15 minutes and the last in in 8 hours 15 minutes) į Good luck and have fun!
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 18:16:00 -
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Wow, This is shaping up to be a great 1st satellite! EveTrax2, cubancigar, arky_g and MasterChan were all neck and neck for the top 1st game spot... but everything can turn arround in only one hand.
Remember to sign-up now for the next tournament at 21:00 CET. Even if you played in the last, you can still participate in Satellite 2 and Satelitte 3 games!
Full results will be posted at the end of qualifiers...
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 19:19:33 Remember to sign-up now for the next game at 23:00 CET (21:00 eve time) Even if you played in the last, you can still play in this one!!
Full results will be posted at the end of qualifiers...
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 20:33:13
Originally by: Think Star Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 18:35:56 Wow, This is shaping up to be a great 1st satellite! EveTrax2, cubancigar, arky_g and MasterChan were all neck and neck for the top 1st game spot... but everything can turn arround in only one hand.
Remember to sign-up now for the next tournament at 23:00 CET - 21:00 GMT thats 21 eve time. Even if you played in the last, you can still participate in Satellite 2 and Satelitte 3!
Full results will be posted at the end of qualifiers...
Here are the full resaults for the first satellite:
In correct order:
1. Khapeta !! 2. H00KER 3. _Blind_Man 4. danzii 5. bill56 6. T2MZ 7. yxeri 8. Tweenis 9. wowvegas
The next satellite starts at 23:00 CET (21:00 GMT/EVE time) - Thats30 minutes from now
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bozse Worked great so far, busted ut at like 30th in the first round tho.
One complaint, u have a flaw in the rules that allows allready qualified plyers to enter the later rounds thus making it so they can grab 2 of the slot for the final, doubt this was intended and if it is i would like to know how u motivate this.
If you qualify 2 times to the finals there will be one less in the finals to compete with and you get two timecards instead of one =)
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bozse Edited by: Bozse on 28/05/2006 21:36:03
Originally by: Think Star
Originally by: Bozse Worked great so far, busted ut at like 30th in the first round tho.
One complaint, u have a flaw in the rules that allows allready qualified plyers to enter the later rounds thus making it so they can grab 2 of the slot for the final, doubt this was intended and if it is i would like to know how u motivate this.
If you qualify 2 times to the finals there will be one less in the finals to compete with and you get two timecards instead of one =)
Yes but that's what im saying, i dunno about u but i know i rather see the full amount of players actualy plying the finals (if im in it or not is besides the point) instead of the thoretical 7 players that it could become.
Edit: Besides this great initiative, hope u do more of this in the future.
We will defenetly take this under consideration :) its a valid comment. thank you.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
Especially because of the EVE related prizes - and it beeing limited to EVE players as well (yes others could snatch up the code - Not sure how to 'control' that if this really takes of)
None - Eve players can't win prizes.. We ask all winners to confirm their EVE username. (its ok to have a trial account this time arround)
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 23:36:16 The next and FINAL! Satellite starts at 03:00 CET (01:00 GMT/EVE time) - Thats 1 hour and 30 minutes from now
So put on your warp drive now and sign up!
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.28 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 28/05/2006 23:45:14
Originally by: Zaroastr Aww, I failed at the second satellite too. My mates keep winning timecards though. I'll be watching the finals. We would all definitely LOVE to see more of this in the future \o/
By the way, a question. Are the timecards only 100 day ones? (Just so there are no negative surprises)
Yes all the timecards are 100 days, for those who make the finals
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 00:15:24 Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 00:13:51 Here are the full resaults for the 2nd Satellite!:
In correct order:
1. Leipuri80 !! 2. Psychopat 3. mikl0s 4. Joopk 5. EVESaai 6. Rabert 7. J_Laurent 8. Flouz 9. Palitir
We here at 4Kings congratulate all of them!
The next and FINAL! Satellite starts at 03:00 CET (01:00 GMT/EVE time) - Thats 1 hour from now from now
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch Wouldn't it be possible to reschedule the final to friday or saturday/sunday? Like lots of others I need to work for my living and I most probably will be sitting in some hotel on thursday without (payable) internet connection and just cannot take my seat...
Juwi Kotch
After the final Satellite we will send an email to all qualifiers and ask them to vote on this issue.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 04:24:34 Here are the full resaults for the last Satellite!:
In correct order:
1. Molta !! 2. Erodmos 3. Psychopat 4. cubancigar 5. wowvegas 6. Valarkin 7. badcad 8. khatred 9. denzilmaso
We here at 4Kings congratulate all of them!
All the sattelites are now done.. If you want more events like this do post your comments here on this thread!
Here is a complete list of the qualifiers that will compete for The Ultimate Gaming computer in the FINALS Everyone is welcome to login to our client and cheer your favorate player on.
The 25 Qualifiers to The Finals!
_Blind_Man yxeri wowvegas x 2 time winner! Valarkin Tweenis T2MZ Rabert Psychopat x 2 time winner! Palitir Molta mikl0s Leipuri80 khatred Khapeta J_Laurent Joopk H00KER Flouz EVESaai Erodmos denzilmaso danzii cubancigar bill56 badcad
The Final is Scheduled to be 1st of June but if it will change all players will be notified via email and an update will be posted here on the forums.. If you want more events like this do post your comments here on this thread!
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Cole Edited by: Felix Cole on 29/05/2006 14:02:17 Pride I didnt reply instantly to it sorry as Ive been cooking and eating dinner. I acctually thought you made some very valid points. However while I can accept some of what your saying about parents responabilities etc, the problem as I see it is that it isnt so cut and dried in my opinion.
I do agree parents need to be more proactive in there approach to the internet, but I also think the companies supplying services such as computer game companies (since games are so attractive to younger audiences) are also responsible for the content of there games and also there message boards.
You can see CCP taking a responsability for its boards by the simple fact it has blocked certain swear words, and has moderators to make sure the rules are followed who modify or delete certain content here. That in itself shows they are willing to take a stand against behaviour that is not suitable to protect there customer base. So why would they allow gambling advertising?
To me it seems very irresponsable for a Computer gaming company who supplies services to children and adults to help advertise for online gambling companies and competitions they host.
As for the debate that EVE is a game where you take a gamble just leaving space, thats all good and well, but you are not terribly likely to get yourself in real life financial trouble or start yourself down a road of a very harmful addiction doing so.
I do understand it was just a fun competition for most of our community and Im sorry if I have offended people, but I honestly think CCP needs to take even a small amount of responability in protecting there customers.
I cant really bring up smoking or other vices since it doesnt exactly relate to the topic at hand.
I also want to add that I am not someone who is Anti Gambling. I just dont think a game company who has many customers who are not adults should be advertising Online Gambling.
We here at 4kings appreciate your feedback and concerns. In future tournaments, we need to be more explicit that itĘs for adults over 18; and over 21 in relevant jurisdictions.
I will state here once more that CCP is not involved in this in any way, but have graciously allowed us to post information about this tournament here on the forums.
Furthermore, all under age players will not be able or allowed to create an account. This is stated in our rules and regulations section and in our policy statement.
We do not allow underage gambling in any sense of the word. If there is fraud (i.e. an underage winner) the Prizes will be paid out to the runner up.
Originally by: Wrangler Ok, I think everyone has to calm down here a bit. There are some facts you should recognize before critizing this:
1. Entry is free! 2. You play with chips, not money, no money is involved. That means you play for free! 3. If you win, you win stuff, good stuff, free stuff! You don't win money! 4. Since I can't say this enough, you don't have to pay anything to play at all! 5. You don't have to pay any shipping, handling, customs fees or any form of taxes related to the prize, it is all covered by 4kings.
The only difference between this and playing poker in school for matches is that you actually get something if you win. However, you don't lose anything.
This is a TEEN rated forum, but we did announce the Fan Fest on it, and that is also something which is restricted to 18 y olds and above.
As for morals of playing poker, you are free to start your own thread on it in the Out Of Pod Experience forum, but it is off topic for this thread.
EDIT: Some errors have been fixed on their site, which means we deleted the post concerning those errors. Feel free to post if you experience any problems in the future though. 
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Combat Ignoring the people who like to spoil the fun for everone else 
Is the final still on the 1st of june?
We will send an email to all the finalist and have a vote on the finals date.
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Galk I am in agreement with you in fact, but yousting it here is as pointless as discussing the reasoning behind timecodes.
Im in agreement, ccp allowing a gambling company to come into a closed community and promote their products isn't great.. but it's easy to understand.. ccp are in the business of making money
But arguing the downsides gets you nowhere in a thread such as this.. cool things were on offer, people had fun out of it....
You were ofc right with your first post, you should have just left it at that.....
What would ofc be nice to know.... did money change hands between 4kings and ccp....
Or is this some future practice.. where we see more of this sort of thing.. between ccp and 3rd party companys being allowed to exploit the playerbase with these types of offers or promotions...?
Weird realy, ccp.. community manager care to comment?
CCP is not involved in this in any way, but have graciously allowed us to post information about this tournament here on the forums.
There was no money exchange between us and CCP.
Read the 1st thread or the thread in whole and you will get a full understanding of this promotion.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 23:04:03 Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 23:02:34
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Aw crap I missed this. 
IF YOU MISSED THE EVENT AND WOULD LIKE 4KINGS TO HOST ANOTHER ONE, POST YOUR COMMENTS HERE We are still monitering this thread and we still have not decited if we are going to host another event or not. We will make our decission based on the last event and the number of requests to host another one.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 23:00:58
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 29/05/2006 23:01:18
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:36:00 -
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TIMECARDS HAVE BEEN SEND OUT TO ALL FINALISTS! So make sure to check your email.
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 30/05/2006 20:53:36
Originally by: MASTERZULU
Originally by: Think Star TIMECARDS HAVE BEEN SEND OUT TO ALL FINALISTS! So make sure to check your email.
Woohoo thanks. 
Just for clarification these are 100 day cards right?
Yes, all finalists got one 100 day time card exept for wowvegas and psychopat who qualified twize. They got two 100 day time cards.
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:46:00 -
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THE VOTES ARE IN AND WE ARE HOSTING THE FINALS ON THE 1st OF JUNE AS ADVERTISED
We hope that those few who voted for a different date will still be able to make it. We look forward seeing everybody!
THE VOTES ARE IN AND WE ARE HOSTING THE FINALS ON THE 1st OF JUNE AS ADVERTISED
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 01/06/2006 13:58:09 The Date Of The Finals Has Arrived!
We hope to see everybody at the tables ready to compete for the Dell XPS 600 RENEGADE!.
We expect there will be allot of fun, excitement and some serious poker played by our finalists.
Remember that you are only at panic point when your chip stack goes below 10x the big blind and since the blind periods are 15 minutes! you truly are able to play your best poker and not rely to much on lady luck.
4Kings wishes everybody all the best and we look forward to send the grand prize to our winner who will be crowned EVE OPT I Champion.
Everybody are welcome to sing up at 4Kings and watch the finals. It's easy and completely FREE.
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Think Star
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Posted - 2006.06.01 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Think Star on 01/06/2006 22:14:35
Here are full results from the FINALS!!!
01. denzilmaso - Takes home DELL XPS 600 RENEGADE
02. cubancigar - Takes home XL EVE poster, framed and autographed in photographic quality!
03. danzii 04. Erodmos 05. Khapeta 06. Leipuri80 07. mikl0s 08. badcad 09. H00KER 10. J_Laurent 11. EVESaai 12. T2MZ 13. Flouz 14. yxeri 15. Molta 16. wowvegas 17. bill56 18. _Blind_Man 19. Psychopat 20. Palitir 21. Valarkin 22. Tweenis 23. Joopk 24. Rabert 25. khatred
We here at 4Kings.com congratulate the winner!
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